Returning characters

Jacob · Subject: Returning characters Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:56 am

Gonna throw it out there that I think Michael's coming back, because Harold Perrineau's name was in the credits of the season premiere even though he wasn't in the episode.

WAAALT · Subject: Re: Returning characters Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:19 am

Even though Mikhail's dead, I assume he'll be back in flashbacks or even on-island. He's too awesome to get rid off completely. Also, Libby should hopefully return so we can learn more about her craziness.

3lMariachi · Castaway Posts: 17 Join date: 2008-02-05 Location: 55414

charlie's not dead.

WAAALT · Subject: Re: Returning characters Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:27 pm

3lMariachi wrote:

charlie's not dead.

Wait. If Charlie isn't dead, what are some other characters that are in the same predicament as him? Like, is he as alive as Jack or Bernard, or is he like Yemi, whose skeleton we saw but there he is nonetheless. Or Dave, who I still can't figure out (Hallucination or Island manifestation?)?

If Dominic Monaghan is still around is doesn't necessarily mean Charlie's alive. Look at John Terry, he's had like ten episodes and Christian Shephard died in the pilot.

3lMariachi · Castaway Posts: 17 Join date: 2008-02-05 Location: 55414

ok just to explain; yes i accept charlie is dead, as in you and i are not, nor are jack kate sawyer etc..i was disinclined to admit it, but im just fucking around there.
from the flash forwards, one may also conclude that the passengers did not "die" when they crashed; they are physical beings, alive, and in most all regards, live and well; it would seem they are "real" people that are stranded in some island-place which possesses or is inhabited by some as of yet undetermined unusual power/s. so in that reality, charlie drowned. dead. gurgle, gurgle, twitch- dead. il est mort.
Also, jack's father i now accept to be dead in the same regard.but we see christian manifested as though he were living in season 1 when jack thinks he saw his father in the jungle, and in this most recent episode, we see him again giving a message our favorite canine lab on the cast. he is able to appear and communicate, which would seem to be the same situation charlie has gotten himself into.
as for dave, i've not seen the episodes with him very much/wasnt paying as much attention, but he would seem to be not as real as christian or charlie at this point; no one else acknowledges his presence save for reyes; it would lead me to conclude that dave is either some devilry of the island's machinations, or an (most likely) otherwise significant anomaly attributed to the unfortunate hugo's feverish and otherwise afflicted mind.

Enter 77 · Castaway Posts: 11 Join date: 2008-02-06

WAAALT wrote:

Even though Mikhail's dead, I assume he'll be back in flashbacks or even on-island. He's too awesome to get rid off completely.

Well, after blowing up the Looking Glass, we'd all assume that Mikhail ceases to be, right? But let's think about this: He's survived the Sonic Weapon Fence and Locke beating the shit out of him. And let's also consider the matter in which we think he died. He was underwater and he threw a granade. Now, he is cleary immune to sonic blasts, so that leads me to think that he is still very alive. He was wearing scuba gear and he could have probably escaped death after causing Charlie to drown. I have no doubt that we will be seeing him again.

Jacob · Subject: Re: Returning characters Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:01 am

You forgot the part where he survived getting shot in the chest with a harpoon gun at about 7 feet away.

WAAALT · Subject: Re: Returning characters Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:22 am

Enter 77 wrote:

WAAALT wrote:

Even though Mikhail's dead, I assume he'll be back in flashbacks or even on-island. He's too awesome to get rid off completely.

Well, after blowing up the Looking Glass, we'd all assume that Mikhail ceases to be, right? But let's think about this: He's survived the Sonic Weapon Fence and Locke beating the shit out of him. And let's also consider the matter in which we think he died. He was underwater and he threw a granade. Now, he is cleary immune to sonic blasts, so that leads me to think that he is still very alive. He was wearing scuba gear and he could have probably escaped death after causing Charlie to drown. I have no doubt that we will be seeing him again.

I'm pretty sure the writers named him as one of the many Others that for-sure-actually-seriously died in that episode, but they could be teasing us as usual. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more of him, but I do think he's done for in terms of real living.

The sonic fence was explained (pylons weren't at a lethal level), and getting beat up doesn't kill you, so really only the harpoon thing hasn't been explained, and it could easily be said that he was just not hit in the heart or was wearing armor or some shit like that. Because they opted for explanations, it seems to be that he didn't actually "die" in those previous events, but just came close. Who knows, though? I'd absolutely love to see more of him and I hope I'm wrong.